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I can't join or host dedicated server games online in Left 4 Dead PC version!!!?

I can't join or host dedicated server games online in Left 4 Dead PC version!!! I can host games on a local server and people can play with me and I can join the rare and random local server game. However, if I try to host on a dedicated server, it says that it cannot find it and it will not work. If I try to join a dedicated server, it says error connection failed after 10 retries. port forwarding didn’t help/work; I join at the lobby and it doesn’t load (unless it’s a local server but I don‘t know how to find them); the bar doesn’t move; it still says error of connection failed after 10 retries and boots me from loading screen. (Though I heard port forwarding is only for hosting not joining, though I can’t host it either as I said earlier, more on port forwarding later, like right now in the next sentence.) It [port forwarding] also didn’t help me host on a/the dedicated server either, but I swear I followed all the steps to the letter, maybe port forwarding isn’t the problem, maybe I did it wrong, it didn’t work for far cry 2 either because I could join games but I couldn’t host and I used simple port forwarding with preset ports for the game I got from the list; still nothing. I reinstalled the game [left 4 dead] 2-3 times already. If it's possible I port forwarded wrong I don’t know how because I followed all the instructions on the port forward.com router (LINKSYS BEFSX41) guide step by step and I tried to set a static IP but it says the ports aren’t open... but maybe the port forwarding isn’t the problem. if it is can you please tell me how to do it right? Thanks in advance, please help. Also by the way I’m really remedial when it comes to technology and computers so if you could put your responses into lay mans terms and go step by step that would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks. YES!!! I did buy the game legally at game stop with a CD-key but I couldn‘t find any useful information on other forums. Everyone always asks if it's pirated, well once again it's not. And if it's a problem with the connection, what is it and how do I fix it? My firewall is off, if that matters... I have McAfee Antivirus but I don’t think that it is blocking anything. I don’t know how to check, but when I looked at the reports and logs it said it trusted potentially dangerous or unwanted programs so if that’s it than it can’t be the antivirus because nothing is blocked, they are trusted. My computer's internet is hooked up to my mom and Step dad's router (and possibly modem) in another room. Also, if you do not know how to fix the problem, please tell me how to filter my results so I can join local games only and I wont accidentally click on a dedicated server and get the error, sometimes I can't find an empty lobby to host a local game but if all my searches were local I could join games too.

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1. honsetly i would just get the xbox version. ive had numerous problems with steam so i stopped playing games on there server. thats probably what your problem is. something to do with steam.